What Happens If I Don’t Pay My Credit Card Bill

Posted by R. MAK. 19 November, 2008
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Some times I wonder, what is worst thing that can happen to me, If I do not pay my credit card bills. I can not make regular payments as I have to keep up with increased house payments. Earlier, I did write in detail about what would possibly happen if you do not pay your credit card bills.  I am still of the opinion that mortgage payment should be first priority. It is better to pay mortgage than paying the rent.

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If you recall that article, I said following things will happen is same order.

  1. Collection Calls
  2. Credit Card Cancellation
  3. Collection Agents on your Door
  4. Increased Interest Rates
  5. Bad Credit Score
  6. Legal Action
  7. Bankruptcy

By the way, If you don’t care much about your credit scores (due to current crisis they are worthless anyway), you should consider re-negotiating with your creditor. people have been able to get up to 50% weaver on their balances. Take a look at some of the articles below to find more credit related facts and advice.

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November 19, 2008

With bankruptcy it depends on what is there, after the feds and state get paid, and proportionally distributed by amount owed to each creditor.

Ignore the phone calls for about a year, gather up about half owed, call the collection agency and tell them this is all you got, and it’s all you are going to get to settle this account. They may bicker 100 bucks one way or the other. If you don’t like it hang up, and call back in a month, and do it over. Hell I have had them even send me unsolicited offers that reflect the above scenario.

I used to run a collections department for 8 years, we had over 20,000 accounts, with local districts, HMO’s, Veteran’s Affairs and private citizens, guess how many people worked there? 4. The stress of legitimizing an amount is not worth the payoff because that debt is really purchased for maybe forty cents on the dollar, at most. Sometimes they use a fee based collection system where a flat fee is taken for each account to see it through litigation beginning to end. Those are usually just as willing to deal before it goes to court.

Another method is setting up a payment plan, or just start sending them small amounts every month in order to keep out of court.

Here’s a great letter for responding to collection agencies, making them legally put EVERY thing in line is a great way to get them to drop the debt all together. I prefer this when I feel like I am getting screwed. Either way.

Today’s Date

Your Name Your Address

Collector’s Name Collector’s Address

Dear {insert name of collector or company},

I am writing in response to your (letter or phone call) dated {insert date}, (copy enclosed) because I do not believe I owe what you say I owe.

This is the first I’ve heard from you, or any other company on this matter therefore, in accordance with the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, Section 809(b): Validating Debts:

(b) If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period described in subsection (a) that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor, the debt collector shall cease collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof, until the debt collector obtains verification of the debt or any copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector.

I respectfully request that you provide me with the following information: (1) the amount of the debt; (2) the name of the creditor to whom the debt is owed; (3) Provide a verification or copy of any judgment (if applicable); (4) Proof that you are licensed to collect debts in (insert name of your state)

Be advised that I am fully aware of my rights under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and the Fair Credit Reporting Act. For instance, I know that: (a) because I have disputed this debt in writing within 30 days of receipt of your dunning notice, you must obtain verification of the debt or a copy of the judgment against me and mail these items to me at your expense; (b) you cannot add interest or fees except those allowed by the original contract or state law. (c) you do not have to respond to this dispute but if you do, any attempt to collect this debt without validating it, violates the FDCPA;

Also be advised that I am keeping very accurate records of all correspondence from you and your company including recording all phone calls and I will not hesitate to report violations of the law to my State Attorney General, the Federal Trade Commission and the Better Business Bureau.

I have disputed this debt; therefore, until validated you know your information concerning this debt is inaccurate. Thus, if you have already reported this debt to any credit-reporting agency (CRA) or Credit Bureau (CB) then, you must immediately inform them of my dispute with this debt. Reporting information that you know to be inaccurate or failing to report information correctly violates the Fair Credit Reporting Act § 1681s-2. Should you pursue a judgment without validating this debt, I will inform the judge and request the case be dismissed based on your failure to comply with the FDCPA.

Finally, if you do not own this debt, I demand that you immediately send a copy of this dispute letter to the original creditor so they are also aware of my dispute with this debt.

Signature here Your Printed Name

Posted by Bent Slightly
November 21, 2008

Bent Slightly wrote more in Reddit Comments:
“Just play it safe, but at the same time, don’t be afraid of going to court. Usually if you are straight with them and don’t lie (or I should say, get tripped up lying), it will go fairly. It’s sad to say that usually the collection negotiation is where I find most justice.

Example: Guitar Center gave me credit for like $3000 bucks, no payments for a year. I bought about 1500 bucks worth of stuff, most of it was crap and broke in six months. When it came to pay I said “fuck you”, and ignored it. When i finally dealt with them, I offered them $700.00 dollars, and stated that most of that stuff was crap that broke within three months. She didn’t skip a beat and said yes. Then said that they hear that complaint so often that they don’t even argue with the offer. I could have offered less!!! Haha

But personally it has been a goal in my life to live debt free other than my mortgage. Personally, I could care less about my credit rating. If you are concerned about such a rating. I would play it safe, but you don’t need to kill yourself to pay someone back. Send them 20 dollars a month. But don’t ever give anyone direct access to your account info.

MOST IMPORTANTLY When you make the deal write the persons name down if they say “sheila” or something like that, ask for an additional employee identification number.

They get a lot of death threats, and often do not provide full disclosure, and this can be a point where they will try a double cross.”

Posted by R. MAK.
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